Posted by BigD on January 15, 1997 at 17:57:54:
In Reply to: Re: CLOMID + NOLVADEX: Yes or No? posted by LittleBigMan on January 15, 1997 at 15:46:00:
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: : Alright experts,
: : I read that clomid should be used after a heavy cycle of D-bol or sust but
: : not for to long. My question is, I also heard that Clomid can cause
: : bitch tits and one has to use Nolvadex with that. But if you do a cycle of d-bol
: : you should also use nolvadex, so is it necessary to use the nolvadex with the d-bol
: : AND the clomid?
: : Be big and strong!
: : Freeze
: Clomid is also an anti-estrogen when used by males. Maybe the confusion is cause by the fact
: that it also can bind with estrogen receptors.
: I believe (and I could be wrong, dont have the source with me at the moment) that the
: estrogenic signal imparted by the clomid is much less than that of real estrogen, therefore,
: it is an estrogen antagonist, in that it competes
: with estrogen for the receptors.
Clomid can cause bitch tits because it causes the testicles to increase test production
and the greater test can then aromatize to produce estrogen (in predisposed individuals)