Posted by moonface on January 02, 1997 at 10:29:50:
In Reply to: Re: Stack Advice posted by Hulkster on January 02, 1997 at 10:16:53:
: : : I recently got 'test cyp' - 10 ml (200 mg/ml; 'steris'); sust - 10 ml (250 mg/ml);
: : : and dbol (50x 5mg tabs; thailand) and Nolvadex. Want to stack these
: : : over 8 weeks. Brief suggestion welcomed on how best to combine these to get
: : : the biggest gains in shortest possible time. Thanx.
: : It's too bad you don't have a milder A.S to taper off this cycle with. You've got some pretty androgenic drugs which are going to suppress your natural testosterone production and lose some of the gains you'll make from the cycle. The Sustenon is good because it is a very long acting testosterone and can be used to gradually acclimatize your body to the lack of exogenous androgens as you lower the dosage. I don't feel like doing the math and figuring out how long a drug will last at a certain dosage, so I'll give you some general advice. Start out with the d-bol at a VERY high dosage (like 50 mg/day), and switch to the Cypionate when the d-bol runs out. Use a fairly high dosage of the cyp (700 - 1000 mg/week) and begin taking it one week before your d-bol supply runs out. Start taking the sustenon when the cyp runs out, and gradually taper off it, lowing the dose each week, and space out the last couple of shots over 10 - 14 days for each shot.
: : Remember - hit the receptors fast and hard and allow them to upregulate (see my previous post about the nature of androgen receptors if this confuses you). This will allow you to use less drug while achieving the same effect, and you can then taper off the drug more effectively. Hope this helps.
: : -E.A
: Don't forget the Nolvadex, you didn't mention how much you had. You should be taking 10 - 20mg a day, depending on your weight (10mg for 150lb to 20mg for 230lb) start taking it during the entire cycle, if you don't have enough, then start taking it when you start taking the test. and continue till you run out or a week after stopping the test, which ever comes first. be careful and watch your back!!! Hulkster
I think not using Nolvadex unless necessary would be better advice. It hampers gains by messing with your estrogen, can be slightly liver toxic and hey, the less extra crap you need to throw into your body the better, no?