Re: cycle advice


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Posted by E.A on December 28, 1996 at 22:09:58:

In Reply to: cycle advice posted by stupid on December 28, 1996 at 13:07:22:

: How powerful is androil by itself, and is it strong if used with
: deca. About how much do you have to take(androil) for it to be effective.
: I mean is it even worth bothering with. I am looking to gain some significant mass.
: I was also wondering how many calories should one consume during a cycle to
: ensure new mass, but without get overly fat.

I read Bigcanuk's reply to this and I have a bit of a different opinion, with all due respect to Bigcanuk.

You didn't mention how much andriol or deca you have, but that isn't too important. My recommendation would be to not stack the two drugs, but rather start with the andriol (since it is the testosterone). Start at a very high dosage and taper downwards from there. The last week or two of taking the andriol, start taking the deca at a fairly high dosage and begin tapering downward from there. If you stack both together, you may end up coming off both at or near the same time, which may result in an elevation in cortisol and estrogen (cortisol breaks down muscle tissue, and estrogen gives you gyno). This is due to the sudden ceasation of the stroids altogether, leaving your body's natural production of testosterone very low. It is a very popular myth that stacking drugs will result in some sort of synergy between the two - with the exception of Haloteston, Parabolan, or Masteron which create a distinct synergistic effect. Testerone in itself (the Andriol) is both highly androgenic and highly anabolic which will give you the results you desire. The main complaint about testosterone, however, is that it supresses the body's natural production of testosterone more than most other A.S. It is because of this that many people lose a good portion of the gains they made from the testosterone if nothing is used to taper off the testosterone. By tapering off slowly with another drug (like deca in your case) you will allow your body to slowly acclimatize to the lack of exogenous androgens. You might also consider throwing in some clomid and HCG at the end of the cycle to help your body to kickstart it's natural production of androgens, but this shouldn't be necessary if you taper off the testosterone properly. I also recommended starting at the highest dosage and going downward from there because if some interesting data that I found recently regarding androgen receptors which I'll quote on here if anyone requests it. It is a very unique theory about the nature of the receptors.

Good luck,

E.A


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