Posted by Great White on March 23, 1997 at 17:22:04:
In Reply to: Re: Too much protein... with or w/o AS.... destined for renal failure??? posted by Another Jeff on March 21, 1997 at 13:29:43:
: : I talked to a nephrologist today about the consumption of protein in excess of 150 grams of
: : protein with and with AS use and his reply was:
: : There was a study of men who took excess protein (I think >than 150 grams) and divided into groups who used AS
: : and those who did not and those who ate smaller amount of protein with out AS. These
: : men were then followed for 30 years after the study...
: : The results showed that the men who took excess protein developed renal sclerosis more so than those who did not
: : and as a consequence ended up in renal dialysis. Those who took AS had even greater
: : destruction. I guess I'm heading for the renal lab when I'm fifty or so... but I'll
: : be the best looking one there.
: Has to do with the nitrogen thats left when aminos
: are burned for fuel on a strict protein diet. I asked
: my anatomy professor who is also a BB and chiropractor
: about this awhile back and said that the problem
: is alleviated with excessive water consumption. So
: if you're on an excessively high protein diet, drink
: excessively high amounts of water to reduce the kidney
: stress problem. I guess the water dilutes the nitrogen?
: AJ
I consulted a few more "friends" this weekend on this topic
including doctors and researchers and all agree as AJ said that its the
nitrogen and excess whole amino acids which stress the kidneys. Adding
large amounts of water to a persons diet helps to dilute the blood
and urine thereby relieving the kidneys of concentrated solutes to be
filtrated and secreted.
Boomer, I have been eating a high protein, medium to low
carb (complex carb) medium fat diet for a long time now and I have seen and experienced the effects
of such an eating habit. I too, have helped many, many people
shed pounds, build muscle and improve a persons pyche
as a result of such changes. I have done research into, talked to countless
people including doctors, researchers, body builders both
pro and all natural, and have accumulated large amount of
info on nutrition, weight training, AS, and cardiovascular
fitness. No, I'm not a physician, and I do agree that
most physicians (not all) know nothing about the above
topics and thats why I'm pursuing this area as an
important modality in tretament and maintance of well
being. So you see, we are on the same wavelength.