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: : I've read all the posts on 2x2x2 and I think i know who DartBoard is (BTW I think he's off to do his first show). Our group has had many discussions with his guys and there theory is good but I really think that ours is a lot better. It's called the Cyclone and I'm sure some of you out there have heard of this. It's basically a better variation of the 2x2x2...if you will, it's a 2x2x3. Instesd of two weeks off you take three. A sample: : : Weeks 1-2 : : 2000mg of Anadrol and Sustanon : : Week 3 : : Off : : Week 4 : : 5000 IU APL (HCG) and 1 Clomid/day for 7 days : : Week 5 : : Off : : Weeks 6-7 : : 2000mg of Deca and Primo : : Repeat... : : Trust me this works a lot better. : I'm not putting this idea down, it sounds like it has great merit to me, but why not just stay on continually? : If you're using high androgens, you won't down regulate as much as you think you will, and you'll still make pretty steady progress. : No need for time off, or any of that, just take about 1500 mg/week of test, and throw in some hcg every 4th week or so, and you'll grow well as long as you eat and train hard, and change your training routine around a lot. : Some research shows that large amounts of androgens *might* actually help upregulate the receptors, or at least increase the number of androgen receptors. : Just my idea here.

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